Thursday, March 24, 2011

Live!!! March 24 class

Chapter 6 of iSpy
Points:
  • Turn the war effort into this profitable war. How? After the 9/11, corporations took an opportunity to sell products that will make people feel secure. All of this became the opposite by selling products that monitor what we do. 
  • In order not be afraid, you need to be prepared. 
  • Tendency for people in contemporary times to be afraid of the world in general where it pushes people to join ridiculous communities where they have so many rules such as not playing loud music or not to be outside after certain hours during the night. 
    • Private companies, many times are in charge of creating such places with an increased of surveillance
    • Sometimes, communities like this push us away from reality, on what is really happening outside our communities
  • Iraq war is an interactive war to create fear on people in order to ease the minds of the people and get private information
  • We don't know the real source of terrorism
    • People who are in caves are actually using all of the technology that we're using: cameras, internet, cell phones and what not
    • We think they oppose us because our modernness, but is quite the opposite  
    • When we end up in such country, terrorism expands and we create more people to attack us
Chapter 7
  • Nixon and wiretapping 
    • It was a big deal during such times and now almost the same thing happen during the George W. Bush administration
      • The Bush Administration was accused of wiretapping, but we actually ignore it 
  • Technology is used by politicians to gain more voters 
    • If politicians had access to private corporations data from individuals, then they can campaign in a certain area to gain more votes
  • Why is technology wrong to be used by politicians? What about us monitoring?
    • They are given us (allowing) a certain limited right to monitor certain things, but not everything
    • We don't know what politicians are really doing, we know a few things but not everything
  • We can do some surveillance over a community, but we don't have control over it


4 comments:

  1. We don't know the real source of terrorism ---> the government then?
    People who are in caves are actually using all of the technology that we're using: cameras, internet, cell phones and what not ---> who gave them this?
    We think they oppose us because our modernness, but is quite the opposite ---> do we oppose them for this competition?
    When we end up in such country, terrorism expands and we create more people to attack us ---> how have we created terrorism?

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  2. Well, if we think the government is the source of terrorism, does that mean we have a corrupted government? I'm not saying it is not, but compared to other countries we have a good system to prevent a certain level of corruption.
    Such terrorists receive such devices from funds of others around the world. If we're thinking of Al Qaeda, they're an umbrella of other sources of terrorism.
    I don't think we oppose them because of such competition, but because this is an excuse for the government to implement surveillance on the american people by creating new technological devices that monitors everyone. Recently, NASA launched a new satellite that is many times better than other surveillance satellites. This is in terms of providing surveillance to federal government institutions: CIA, Department of Justice and Homeland Security.
    We expand terrorism because of what we're doing in the Middle East. This influences people to oppose America.

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  3. This is an interesting discussion. Source of terrorism is hard since terrorism is a tactic of struggle. Andrejevich's point, I think, is (put most schematically) that power begets resistance to it. The more power tries to eliminate resistance, the more different kinds of resistance will appear, through the cracks as it were. (This is Diego's last point in his comment).

    Regarding bin Laden, his reasons for opposition are pretty clear--US presence in the Middle East (and also the plight of the Palestinians, right?).

    I don't think the US opposes Al Qaeda simply as an excuse; rather, I think US opposition provides an excuse for surveillance etc...

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  4. I agree. Like I previously mentioned how the United States keeps sending new satellites onto space to expand their power of surveillance. Not only that, but also like we discussed the other day how Congress is trying to pass a bill that allows the President to have control over the internet.

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